Wednesday, October 3, 2007

Amber Hill Case

Sadly, there is a new case in the news that is similar to ours. According to news reports, a woman named Amber Hill (22) of Cleveland, Ohio, drowned her two daughters, Jannelle Cintron (4) and Cecess Hill (2). The Cleveland DA charged her with two counts of aggravated murder, and a judge set her bond at $2,000,000.

Here are some things that stand out to me about this case:
- By all accounts, Amber Hill is credited with being a loving mother who cared for her children. Everyone around her is shocked by her actions.
- Her boyfriend and father of the girls, Jamie Cintron, was found guilty in 2004 and 2006 of domestic violence against Amber Hill. They were apart for 6 months following the 2006 conviction, and they had only been back together for about one and a half months.
- Amber Hill called Jamie Cintron without calling the police. She did not try to hide her actions. She merely told him that the girls "are at peace" or "are resting in peace".
- Some reports state that she may have been suffering from depression. It is unclear at this time whether or not she was on any medications.

There are several reasons why this could have happened, including:
1. Amber Hill could have been seeking revenge against an abusive man.
2. Amber Hill may have rationally thought that her children were in danger, and she was trying to save them.
3. Amber Hill may have been delusional, and she was trying to save her children.

These are just a few possibilities.

One thing that stands out to me is the words that she spoke to Jamie Cintron when she called him. If she were seeking revenge or rationally trying to protect her children, then it seems to me that she would have said something like, "That will teach you!" or "Now you can't hurt them!". But instead, she said that they were "at peace". To me, that is not something that a rational person would say. She didn't seem to show much emotion. She didn't shout and scream. She just took the lives of her daughters and told their father that they were "at peace".

We will need to learn more about the facts of the case before drawing any conclusions. At this time, I'm leaning toward believing that she was delusional and falsely believed that she was saving her children.

16 comments:

DebbieDoo said...

I think you are right on target with assuming that this woman is delusional. How sad and tragic for the victims.

Debbie

Mary J said...

Debbie's right. I really think Amber Hill was delusional. I dont think the b/f did enough to help her. I feel that she was trying to save her children, protect them from James if it does come out that he was abusive toward the children, as more often then not then in these cases the abuser is abusive toward both wife / g/f and children. How horrible and tragic for the victims and their mother. As of rihgt now I have no sympathy for the b/f

Anonymous said...

I can clearly understand. As far out as this may sound to some people, I believe us as mothers try to do the best we can to protect them. I believe some of these cases can be directly compared to what animals in the wild do to their young when they are in danger. When we feel completely trapped in a bad situation, we break down, we feel helpless, and seek a way to escape.

just curious said...

well i ama mother of 4 beutiful girls,I was molested and beat as a child,I then was in a abusive relationship for several years in my adult life,I have lost both parents and a child i broke into a million peices and never once when thinking about how i could save my children did killing them come to mind...I belive When Andrea drowned the children she was really outta her mind,But Look into the facts before you are all so quick to think Amber is in the same category...
Also I am so sure if i lost all my children i would not run off and start a new family..Why did Rusty not stay with Andrea if he truly belived in her..

Anonymous said...

Sadly there is another case here in Germany, that is similar to yours. Steffi K. has strangled her five boys. The media reports that she was apparently schizophrene/delusional.

RIP John, Paul, Noah, Luke, Mary, Steffis 5 boys and Ambers kids...

Anonymous said...

To Just Curious said.... Life goes on He is a Man and he cannot put his life on hold for someone that has no future with or without him, Put your self in his shoes after all He is strong and at least supports her and never talked bad about her.

Anonymous said...

i think that amber was holding everything in about the way jamie was abusing her and just couldnt take the abuse anymore and maybe thought that he would also harm the children in her mind if he hadn't already so like a mother lion she felt the need to protect them yes it is sad but we as humans should not judge her because she could not have been in her right mind

Anonymous said...

i have read everything on all the websites and tryed to see as much as i could, we read about the tragic thing that had happen and i was in shock, i heard about it before when it happend but i was young, and now that i understand it mad me feel really heartbroken .. you had the most beautiful kids and beautiful duaghter, i tryed to see the videos but i guess they do not work =[ , i am so sorry about what happen. i hope everthing workss out for you .

Anonymous said...

Also I am so sure if i lost all my children i would not run off and start a new family..Why did Rusty not stay with Andrea if he truly belived in her..

December 3, 2007 7:02 AM

Response to above post!
Rusty did not run off and start a new family. This horrible murder happen in 2001. It is now 2008! Rusty stood by Andrea through seeking medical care, trials, sentencing and being imprisoned for the rest of her life. FEW men would have stood by a women who killed their 5 adorable children!
I'm sure he had 7 very long, lonely, horrible years surviving the mental torture of all that happen! It's a wonder he is sane. Bless you Rusty, may God heal your wounds, bless you, Laura and family! Some of your posters are sick.

Anonymous said...

There are two sides to every story.....thats how the saying goes.My husband and Jamie are best friends and we dont know what goes on behind closed doors.But this is what i do know !I was jamies boss for two years and it was rocky as far as i can see and hear,amber would call over and over and just fight with him.Jamie came to work with scratches on his neck and face at least 4 times out of a two years of working together.He was not allowed girls as friends because she would be raged.The day Jamie left for work they had breakfast as a family the he left to work ...then he got the phone call that would change his life forever.He would leave and then come back .They where not healthy together.But i Know he is not abusive.Jamie is around my girls all the time me and my husband have three girls and he is great with them.The ironic part is Jamie and my daughter are best buds she is 2 and a half and i thought it would kill him to be around her.But it was the light in her eyes that helped get him through this she makes him smile and that keeps him going .I see him getting slanderd left and right.He is A good person that didnt have it easy and trys hard .It does not matter what the case my be she has to pay the piper ,if you took a innocent childs life in this case 2 pretty babies.It is what it is you have to take responability for you do.dont blame someone else for your doing.So more and more people can do it to.

Anonymous said...

What is wrong with you people who actually have the gall to sit there and justify such a heinous act as the murder of 2 innocent children? That is what is wrong with today's society, there is always some lame excuse as to why people do the things that they do.
I may not have been in Jamie and Amber's lives during the time of they're realationship but I can tell you a few things about Jamie that are true.
I met Jamie shortly after the death of his 2 daughters. He is roommate's with my best friend and husband.I have know him almost 2 years, and I can personally tell you that he is NOT an abusive man. I have 2 young sons, my youngest being 2 1/2, and in all the time that I have known him, I have never even heard him raise his voice.He is a very quiet and self reserved man,very respectful to any and everyone whom he may cross.If he truly was an abusive man, do you honestly thi nk that I,as a mother would even consider allowing my children to be around him? No of course not. But I will tell you that I would trust him with my children any given day of the week.Now as far as it being said that Amber was insane at the time of these unforgivable acts that she commited, that may be true.But I will also say that I have a sister how suffers from multiple personality disorder,who has heard voices for years. Mental illness is something that you suffer with for many years,alot of times in silence due to the fact that you do not realize that there is indeed a illness to be addressed.Regardless is she was indeed delusional at the time of the murders, that does not change the fact that she MUST pay the consiquenses for her actions. For all of the people who say that they're sympothy goes to Ambers family, if they truly was a mental illness with Amber, where was her "close knit family"? Why were they not reaching out to her, offering to do anything that they possibly could for her and her children? Why did they not realize that they're daughter,cousin,sister,ect was behaving out of charecter? So as far as I am concerned, my sympothies go to Jamie, and the entire Cintron family for the loss of 2 innocent,beautiful little girl who will never again know the kiss and love of a father, who would gladly take they're place with the glorious God our father if he could. I Love You Jamie, and I will support you with my dying breath.

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Anonymous said...

Why is there never a mention of Post-partum psychosis? This woman was clearly mentally ill.

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Anonymous said...

I'm a relative to Amber and knew Jamie for many yrs, yes their relationship was extremely rocky, Jamie had 2 domestic violent charges then, I'm sure he changed alot, I'm sure he wishes he could change the past like getting Amber the help she needed when she was stabbing herself in the stomach, who could sit there and not call 911 if someone was cutting themselves. Or did anyone even no this. So let's all get the facts together 1st before writing. I went to see my cousin, she had stab marks all over her stomach....still I say I'm quite sure he changed alot. And if u really want to get the facts, how many of u actually knew he didn't no the girls dress sizes for the funeral. Is that a Big indication of how much he really was a part of those beautiful girls lives. Oh and 1 other strong point. He had to show i.d. when he picked up them from daycare, why? becuz he only picked them up 1 time..END OF STORY.....BUT GOD BLESS HIM ANYWAY

Anonymous said...

Hello. to anonymous from Jan 09. I am also a very close friend of Amber's family and this question I ask of u. How are u really sure that they did not try to reach out to her. I do believe Jamie was living in the house. Right? And If u are so much pro Jamie, then ask him why didn't he call someone like 911 when she was cutting herself? Amber's mom practically did everything for those beautiful kids, Amber and Jamie as well. So I would like for u not to say harsh words regarding Amber's family. OK. Thank u.